[PJUG Javamail] Android VM (Elias Volanakis)

brian walsh brian at bwalsh.com
Fri Feb 19 12:37:33 EST 2010 

Agree with Elias comments.

I'd start with a gap analysis on your dependencies between what you
are using now vs. what is shipped with android.
If your'e comfortable with eclipse, you'll be productive on android
very quickly.

Good Luck.
-b




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> Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2010 09:34:48 -0800
> From: "Richard Johnson" <Richard.Johnson at chrome.com>
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> Anyone know if Android's JVM requires JME, JSE, or if they forked it and
> require a special version to build/run applications with?
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> I think they use Dalvik instead:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dalvik_virtual_machine
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> -Chris
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>>  Hi all,
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>> Anyone know if Android?s JVM requires JME, JSE, or if they forked it and
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> From: Kent Spaulding <kent at iotabits.com>
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> It uses the Dalvik VM, or soon, Dalvik Turbo.
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> http://dev.android.com/index.html
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> You'll want the full kit for eclipse, etc..
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> On Feb 18, 2010, at 9:34 AM, Richard Johnson wrote:
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>> Hi all,
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> From: "Richard Johnson" <Richard.Johnson at chrome.com>
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> Me:
>> Anyone know if Android's JVM requires JME, JSE, or if they
>> forked it and require a special version to build/run
>> applications with?
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> Kent:
>> It uses the Dalvik VM, or soon, Dalvik Turbo.
>> http://dev.android.com/index.html
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> Christopher:
>> I think they use Dalvik instead:
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dalvik_virtual_machine
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> Thanks guys.  :-)  Anyone have any anecdotes about porting a
> not-already-for-phone application to it?
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> Richard
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> Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2010 13:42:16 -0800
> From: Elias Volanakis <elias at eclipsesource.com>
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> You can browse the available packages here:
> http://developer.android.com/reference/packages.html
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> Obviously swing and awt is not available. If you have something that
> is algorithmic in nature it could be straightforward. I ported an
> mp3-tag-reader to android this way (pretty much java.lang, java.io,
> java.collections only).
>
> If you have a whole app you will have to rethink the UI and the flows.
> First a non-phone app will likely assume a large UI and will not be
> optimized for touch. Also Android apps have a lifecycle that is
> different from Java apps. They consist of several Activities that have
> a strict lifecycle (think: App as a state machine, where each state is
> an Activity. activities reminded me a bit of applets). This is a good
> explanation:
>
> http://developer.android.com/reference/android/app/Activity.html
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> Hope this helps?
>
> Elias.
>
> On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 9:45 AM, Richard Johnson
> <Richard.Johnson at chrome.com> wrote:
>> Me:
>>> Anyone know if Android's JVM requires JME, JSE, or if they
>>> forked it and require a special version to build/run
>>> applications with?
>>
>> Kent:
>>> It uses the Dalvik VM, or soon, Dalvik Turbo.
>>> http://dev.android.com/index.html
>>
>> Christopher:
>>> I think they use Dalvik instead:
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dalvik_virtual_machine
>>
>> Thanks guys. ?:-) ?Anyone have any anecdotes about porting a
>> not-already-for-phone application to it?
>> --
>> Richard
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