[PJUG Javamail] Free version of IntelliJ...

[Douglas Bullard]

I watch our developers at work trying to do stuff with Eclipse that’s  
easy in IDEA… since our switch, our code quality has actually  
suffered, as Eclipse doesn’t have nearly the code fixing features of  
IDEA.  Yes, CheckStyle can tell you you’re doing something bad - but  
Intellij will suggest fixes for you, and then make it happen with a  
keystroke.  Most folks don’t bother with it when they see the  
CheckStyle errors, they just leave the bad code in and let someone  
else (usually me or the tech lead) fix it.

The really funny thing is that when we used IDEA (and an old version  
at that), contractors would come in who had never used anything other  
than Eclipse - they hated switching.  After using IDEA for a while,  
they loved it.  When we switched to Eclipse, a lot of them said that  
even the old version of IDEA was better then the RedHat version of  
Eclipse.  And, the ones that were using IDEA 8 (quite a few bought  
licenses) said the Seam and Spring support was far superior.

Of course, Eclipse was “free”, so guess how that went…


Doug



On Oct 16, 2009, at 19:19, Chris Kessel/Lou Doherty wrote:

> That's sort of the point. Individuals, students, hobbyists, etc that  
> need a decent Editor get one. It's their lead in for the full  
> version. If you need Enterprise software then you're probably doing  
> business work and you don't get a free ride. It's always bugged me  
> that it's corporations that get the big benefit from open source  
> rather than the original intended individual developers with shallow  
> pockets, so I like the community/profession edition balance.
>
> FWIW, I'd buy IntelliJ out of pocket over a free Eclipse. It's that  
> much better. At ~$300 for a personal copy, it only needs to make me  
> roughly .3% (3/10 of 1%) more efficient than Eclipse to pay itself  
> off in a year. Personally, after having used Eclipse a little and  
> watched coworkers use it, I'm pretty sure I get that much gain from  
> IntelliJ in a week.
>
> Your mileage obviously will vary though.
>
> Chris
>
> From: javamail-bounces at pjug.org [mailto:javamail-bounces at pjug.org]  
> On Behalf Of Steve Mayzak
> Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 9:20 AM
> To: David H Elrod
> Cc: javamail at pjug.org
> Subject: Re: [PJUG Javamail] Free version of IntelliJ...
>
> I came across this yesterday and, as an Intellij user, was excited.   
> That was until I looked at the feature comparison.  The free  
> Community edition is so stripped down that it is almost useless for  
> JavaEE development and completely useless for Grails...
>
> http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/nextversion/editions_comparison_matrix.html
> Nice try JetBrains!
>
> I recommend checking out STS from Spring source. It is by far the  
> best eclipse IDE I have tried yet.
> http://www.springsource.com/products/sts
>
> -Steve
>
> On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 6:43 AM, David H Elrod  
> <dhelrod at rivendell.com> wrote:
> Did I miss the PJUG announcement about a free version of IntelliJ
> IDEA?
>
> See:
>    http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/nextversion/free_java_ide.html#linux
>
> There are versions for Linux, Mac OS and that other operating
> system.
>
> I like Eclipse and recent versions of NetBeans, but I've also
> heard great things about IntelliJ and was interested in what
> was worth paying that much money for.  Its just hard to justify
> $500+ to just satisfy my curiosity.
>
> Now I just need to find the hours to give it a shot... (grin!)
>
> David
>
> P.S. Sorry if this is already old news...
>
>
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