[PJUG Javamail] Talent loans to startups

[Bob Dietrich]

Thanks for the comments and good suggestion. A couple of points in response:

 

First, yes, this has been tried in various forms before. Some but not all of
those have failed. In fact, my own startup has successfully used this
before. Like anything else, what you get out is based on what you put in.

 

I'd also like to note that the proposal is not just oriented towards PJUG
members. Startups need help from all sorts of disciplines. So please pass
the word to marketing, graphic design, and people with other skills. 

 

Thanks.

 

Bob

From: Ted Kubaska [mailto:tedkubaska at comcast.net] 
Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 2:16 PM
To: Bob Dietrich
Cc: 'Richard Johnson'; javamail at pjug.org
Subject: Re: [PJUG Javamail] Talent loans to startups

 

Cool ...  not to put a damper on this, but this idea has come up several
times before and has never gotten off the ground. Sometimes the volunteer
work is just to create your own job ... other times to get an equity stake.

 

But you know, we have a very active opensource community here in the
Portland area. There are lots of opportunities to volunteer on opensource
projects, some of which have commercial spinoffs. Our upcoming Eclipse
DemoCamp (http://wiki.eclipse.org/Eclipse_DemoCamps_Galileo_2009/Portland )
is an example ... here you will hear 10 minute talks on a number of local
projects, and I doubt any would turn down volunteers.

 

Please don't take my I've-seen-this-before as negative because it is not
intended that way. I'm a firm believer and advocate of technical involvement
in the community, and I'll participate and help in any way I can.

 -ted

 

 

On May 28, 2009, at 11:21 PM, Bob Dietrich wrote:





Good question. The informal legal advice I've gotten so far is that as long
as there is a contractor relationship between the volunteer and the startup,
there shouldn't be a problem. The contractor relationship removes a lot of
restrictions.

 

Bob

From: Richard Johnson [mailto:richard at ytivarg.com] 
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 8:17 PM
To: Bob Dietrich
Cc: javamail at pjug.org
Subject: Re: [PJUG Javamail] Talent loans to startups

 

Bob Dietrich wrote:

Howdy,

I was wondering if I could get your feedback on an idea, and better yet,
your participation if it's of interest to you.
[snip]
 http://tryMEout.processpath.com):


That's a neat idea.   I've pondered the idea of trying something like that
for engineer's crazy garage inventions but never got any traction.  There
are certainly enough of both people who need work and ideas that need
capitalized to make it a general win.  The key of course being can we get a
local win.  If it aint good for the startups there's no point.

The big hurdle for labor is probably going to be whether someone would lose
their unemployment for being a volunteer, or keep their unemployment because
they're getting OJT.
-- 
Richard Johnson

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