[PJUG Javamail] Advice on Java certification

[Ken Paulsen]

http://java.net is another good site to find open source projects.  I 
work on GlassFish and JSFTemplating.

If you're interested, feel free to join my project:  
https://jsftemplating.dev.java.net  I could use a lot of help on 
documentation. :)  The project is based on JSF and could help you do 
bullet #3.

jMaki is another interesting project if you're into Ajax: 
https://ajax.dev.java.net .  I know Greg is looking for more people to 
help him... once you get more up to speed I'm sure any of these projects 
would love the help.

Good luck!

Ken

John Degner wrote:
> Michael,
>
> There are tons of open source projects on http://sourceforge.net/, 
> http://osdir.com, http://freshmeat.net/...among countless others.
>
> Since you live in Portland, why not check out 
> http://www.jivesoftware.org.  They're an awesome local open-source 
> company.  Their projects are clean and well architected.  You can 
> start building small plugins for their Spark IM client (sparkplugs) 
> almost immediately.
>
> Probably not a simple place to start for a true beginner, as the 
> patterns used take an understanding and depth of experience in 
> Software Engineering (and specifically Java Software Engineering), but 
> after you knock off the first three bullets on the list below, you may 
> be ready to dive in =) !!
>
> Enjoy!,
> John
>
> */Michael Phoenix <michaelandrewphoenix at gmail.com>/* wrote:
>
>     How does on go about getting involved in open source projects? I
>     tried googling "open source projects" and "open source projects
>     java" and the information it returned was not that helpful. I
>     think I need some specific places to start looking.
>
>     On 10/10/06, *Richard* <richard at ytivarg.com
>     <mailto:richard at ytivarg.com>> wrote:
>
>         Cole Harper aks:
>         "  For someone without a CS degree, is the Java Certification
>         " route a way to get a job as a Java developer?
>
>         The best route I've seen--with or without degree--is to have a
>         body of coding
>         experience.  For some reason (go figure) managers like to see
>         a track record
>         a whole lot more than they like to see a degree (for the most
>         part.)
>
>         To get the experience:
>
>         - do the whole Sun tutorial
>         - do all the exercises in "Thinking in Java"
>         - write a couple of interesting programs or web sites for yourself
>         - get involved in one or two open source projects and
>         genuinely contribute
>         - come to many PJUG meetings and get to know us
>         - find a specific area of Java that you enjoy, and then repeat
>         all these, in
>         that area.
>
>         The good news for you is that you're already employed.  That
>         gives you the
>         staying power to accomplish this goal.  We have lots of bright
>         and taleneted
>         people here in PJUG who'll likely be more than willing to help
>         you along the
>         way.
>         --
>         Richard Johnson
>
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