[PJUG Javamail] Advice on Java certification
joe at intelopment.com
Wed Oct 11 00:09:19 EDT 2006
Great comments Richard. I totally agree.
For myself, getting certified was interesting and educational. I'm glad
I invested the time and I learned about parts of the technology (Swing)
that I otherwise never have dealt with, as I work only on server
My certification has never been relevant to a job discussion. I've
never been asked "are you certified". However I have been asked many
times about what I've done, what I've built, how I handed XYZ., etc.
While some of this experience might come from a certification program,
employers and peers are looking for real live experience. I would not
rely on a certification to accomplish these goals. It's just not enough.
> Cole Harper aks:
> " For someone without a CS degree, is the Java Certification
> " route a way to get a job as a Java developer?
> The best route I've seen--with or without degree--is to have a body of coding
> experience. For some reason (go figure) managers like to see a track record
> a whole lot more than they like to see a degree (for the most part.)
> To get the experience:
> - do the whole Sun tutorial
> - do all the exercises in "Thinking in Java"
> - write a couple of interesting programs or web sites for yourself
> - get involved in one or two open source projects and genuinely contribute
> - come to many PJUG meetings and get to know us
> - find a specific area of Java that you enjoy, and then repeat all these, in
> that area.
> The good news for you is that you're already employed. That gives you the
> staying power to accomplish this goal. We have lots of bright and taleneted
> people here in PJUG who'll likely be more than willing to help you along the
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