[PJUG Javamail] [OT] Why RoR won't take over article from a RoR dev

[Tim Dysinger]

The counting of projects on sourceforge was to point out that Ruby is  
just as old as Java and far, far behind C# and Java in actual use.

Your right.  I haven't used any Ruby before.  I don't really care to  
learn it.   It's preference for statically-typed languages and not a  
bias for Java.  I don't like dynamically typed languages.  The  
reason:  It's harder to find productivity tools (IDE, refactoring,  
UML, etc), that make your life easier.  That's the single strongest  
reason to not learn Ruby.

Here's my second strongest reason: jobs.  [Counting again] There are  
only 200 +/- matches to "Ruby" on monster.com.  There are 5 (thats  
five) times more jobs on both dice.com and monster.com for little ol'  
Python than Ruby.  There is not a single (not even one) job  
advertised for a rails developer in Portland right now that I can find.

So I'd have to be willing to keep the toys in the garage on the  
weekend and learn Ruby just for fun and because everyone says it's  
"cool".  No thanks.

With GCJ [ http://gcc.gnu.org/java/ ] in working order and open- 
source, I don't see any reason not to use Java most of the time for a  
long time to come - even if Sun goes belly up.  With AndroMDA,  
Eclipse w/ WTP, Maven, Spring and Hibernate, I bet that I could whip  
out a quality web app every bit as fast as an experienced Rails guy  
and I'd have UML docs for free out of the deal.

On Apr 7, 2006, at 4:22 PM, Brasten Sager wrote:

> I've been a Java developer almost since the beginning.  I love  
> Java.  By
> all means, use Java.
>
> As a Java developer for years who picked up Ruby in the last 6 months
> (and love it, thus far), I'm becoming more and more perplexed by the
> strong reaction against Ruby by the Java crowd, especially the Java
> crowd that isn't really taking the time to learn Ruby.  The need for a
> Java developer on a Java users group mailing list to count Ruby
> SourceForge projects seems odd to me (though, for what it's worth,
> there's another 1,500 on RubyForge).
>
> -Brasten